My carta d'identita' has expired and a bureaucrat at the comune where I went to get a birth certificate for my daughter recently gave me a hard time about it. According to her I had to get something called an "attestato di soggiorno" first and then go another office (forgot which) to get the actual carta d'identita renewed. I'm a citizen of another EU country - not Italy. She said that the "attestato di soggiorno" is the equivalent of a permesso di soggiorno for EU citizens (who of course don't need permission to live in another EU country 
).
So does anyone know where I need to go to get an attestato di soggiorno? Does anyone actually have such a document? I've never seen it before and neither has my husband who is also an EU country citizen and has lived here for 25 years. And where do I go to get the new carta d'identita after this? And are there any other documents which i need?
I'm confused by all this because from what I remember 5 years ago when I got the original carta d'identita all I needed was a residency document plus my passport.
I'm in Rome if that's relevant.
Here in Florence the only time they ask for attestato di soggiorno is for the Asl health tessera. It costs 21 euro and some cents and here we get it at the PAD, I have never heard of anyone needing it for carta identita renewal but anything is possible these days.
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Just on a side note, just because you are EU doesnt mean you can just have the "right" to live here, there are specific requisites that EU citizens must follow or they will not be given residency.
Though I am sure this doesnt' to apply to Ramona but the attestato di soggiorno is what the comune uses to make sure that the EU citizen has met all requirements.
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Thanks amy. Actually what happenned is that the bureaucrat said "you need to go and get a new carta d'identita' and bring your permesso di soggiorno". I said "I don't have a permesso di soggiorno because I'm a citizen of a European Union country". She said "OK then bring your attestato di soggiorno instead."
I remember getting a permesso di soggiorno when I first moved here in 2005 but then a couple of years later another bureaucrat (I think it was the comune) told me that I should just chuck it out as it is no longer needed for EU citizens. But now I'm confused - did the attestato di soggiorno replace the permesso?
And what do I need in order to renew my carta d'identita'?
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Well they modified a bunch of things in 2007 for EU citizen requirements..tbh I don't think you need an attestato to redo your carta identita. They ask for it in our Asl office for the health cards since Tuscany is unified about EU residency requirements and automatically when you have obtained your attestato di soggiorno it means you have met the financial requisites but for carta identita' I have never heard of such a thing. I would go to the PAD or wherever you do your id card with your old one and your passport as alternative id and if they want the attestato they are the office that can print it out. Its more likely the comune worker is a bit off..The attestato replaced the permesso in a sense but you really are only asked for it for specific things, as you have passed the 5 year as a resident you should now be a permanent resident so I wouldn't worry unless someone specifically asks for it..sorry I am jumping around but I am trying not to watch the game between Ireland and Italy...
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Thanks again Amy. I'm off to the Comune again this moring for more birth certificates (long story) so I'll bring my passport and see if I can also renew my carta d'identita.
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I'm looking at a 'Certificato Attestante' from June 08 which we got as part of the ID card process 6 months after moving from the UK. No expiry date on the certificate (thankfully).
However...
To get the Certificato Attestante, we first had to get a Certificato di Residenza... (Have to add that our Comune couldn't have been more helpful in the paper-gathering exercise that finally establishes your official presence in Italy)
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Yes remember to make a copy as Deebee said your attestato should be without expiration date.
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I renewed my CI recently, but only after I gave them the AdiS - it was no big deal, I did everything here in Rome at the ninth district in about 30 minutes. That said, I had to go there at 7.00am as they only process 10 AdiS per day!
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Hi - I still have my permesso di soggiorno. I was told that I can get an "attestato di soggiorno" instead but it is not necessary and you have to pay for it (so basically don't bother). I renewed my carta d'identità at my local quartiere and they accepted the old permesso (I wouldn't have chucked it out I'm afraid!) They also issue the attestati but said it is not necessary to have one unless someone requests it specifically (and they don't know who that might be!) However if you no longer have the permesso that might be you, sorry!
i have an attestato di soggiorno, as do my wife and kids, its the EU citizen's equivelent of the permesso. if you still have a valid permesso you can do a straight swap. this is the (much) easier option. if your P di S has expired you have to start the process again - and it is very similar to the permesso process. the confusion arrises because at the comune the attestato di soggiorno is known coloquially as - guess what - a permesso di soggiorno
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